tim winnett

[tim winnett]

The weather is awful & the bookies are awash with money. To top it all the ratings are taking a battering.
And people are backing 2yr old runners (mug punter) unless your the owner.
And the bookies & exchange are offering very tight odds

The AllWeather racing will be going up a gear from sept onwards.
Here are 3 runners to keep an eye on in there next few runs.

Firsteen,
Cameo star
Mywayistheonlyway

Track Newcastle 7f 0-65hcp 8th aug
Above/Average 2.o6 sec 12 lengths
Ground /speed -0.310
Average Speed rating 73.11
Winners speed rating 85
Winner Castle Quarter (cheek pieces 1st time & may not produce rating?.)

Speedrating

[tim winnett]

Reply to Graham,

Very valid points, I wrote on the forum sometime ago, about
Having the ratings the evening before, In my opinion JLC marketing
Spend more time on there other sites and to me it seems TPS are the poorer relation
(Betinfo24)

[tim winnett]

I agree with you peter, the ratings produced are of good quality, however I also
In some part agree that the service is lacking certain qualities In my opinion its
just a matter of giving positive support to Matt & Richard as these two guys are
the ones producing the rating. JLC Marketing Ltd need to invest Into there team at TPS
& the TPS website.

[tim winnett]

Thanks for the reply Mike. However, surley any one of the team could post a message if
This is the case.
But thank you for the reply as i thought it maybe a I.T problem that seems to arise.

Regards

[tim winnett]

Will there be any ratings today or is it IT problem again
Has any one got todays ratings, I can see the cards but no ratings???

[tim winnett]

Race cards but no ragings at present
Can you ask your I.T dept to investigate.

[tim winnett]

Running to the hills before i die in active combat using the V.I.P Service for nearly a year.
THATS ME DONE, hopefuly july & August will be good months as usual and the service can
Turn it all around for the remaining members. Whilst i have to concentrate on my other investments
I would say that on the forum 25th may 815pm it was posted the vip bet had a treble and
A fantastic days profit. To clarify the main bet was 8/11 Raffles prize the others names
Was as a Dble & A treble as an option. The last time a treble was put up the 4/11 shot
The last runner of the 3 was beat fair and square by Matherdon at lingfield.
The point is I am out. If the VIP service changes its fornat and is a regular daily service
Then i will be back maybe. Good luck to the remaining.

[tim winnett]

Denis
The main point is you had a plan and stuck to it.

Good Luck

[tim winnett]

SEAN,

It all depends on different opinions of how people gamble, it is a known fact that
Approx 30% of races are won by the top handicapper, just look at how many runners
With number 1 on there saddle cloth win races. Stratergy’s are just playing a numbers ratiio
Hopefully you win more than you loose. Take a look at beverly and chester see if any numer
Above stall 10 won on good to firm ground at 5f or 6fur reverse when its heavy ground
However, TPS Rating offer 1 element you have to put the other elenents in, consistancy
Is what will make you profitable month after month, Before you loose any money learn
How to produce speed ratings and how to handicap a runner, and what race are and will produce the next winners
Eg: lincoln all the front 7 runners home will win in there next 2 or 3 races, certain races are run above average time.
The bookies the true betfair players are so well informed, they will just keep on taking your money.
The vast majority of stratergys work for a period of time, therfore its not false advertisement.
In additition laying horses is a real profesionals game, remember laying a horse at 10/1 is like backing a odds on winner
The elusion betfair offer is most people are not backing or laying on there site the people are hedging, Trading , arbing
And the vast amount is pre race trading, the only good point is if you are going to back over 10/1 use them.
I have lost and won a vast amount but i have always kept records of all my portfolio of bet types so i know what works for me.
The only real advise is learn as much as you can about the subject, because once the losses happen your emotions will take over
And thats when the stratergy fails.

AGAIN GOOD LUCK

[tim winnett]

Reply to Sean,
May 20th paper trade strategy:
If you are just using the ratings with out checking other race variables
For instance draw bias, ground, trip, class of race, claimer on board taking 7Lb of
Can it run fresh as the rating may be 3 months old or it may not be upto date
as the selection ran 2 days ago, or it could be a runner with a hcp mark well below
What it should be ( selection gets clobbered by a 40/1)
Basicaly the rating are only an expression. No stratergy will work using ratings only
If it did TPS would not need clients and there would be no bookies.
Best stratergy is info, patience, and pick certain type of race to study,
ALL WEATHER is what i excel in 7f-1m4f reason no hurdles, fences or undulations
Better prices and going usually varies by -5 to + 3 secs slw/fst
Tps which i have used for a considerable time offer fair ratings, some days the ratings
Hit home with good percentages some days they dont, but by using the above rules your win ratio will
Improve dramaticaly, Good luck

[tim winnett]

Been saying that a long time Graham, having the ratings the eve before
Would give a person the chance to check out all the other variables in the race.

[tim winnett]

Reply to Sean 15th may
Have 3 plus Accounts and rotate your bets between them.
Yes you will have some good winners and a lot of loosers
The exchange is only good if your doing your own speed ratings
And your backing 10/1 and above. My advice dont use any ratings except
Your own for 2yr olds or 3yr olds from jan to july and would not
Back any hcp qualifying novice hurdles or chase races
Stick to the exposed runner fields and use the ratings for them only
PICK THE FIGHTS YOU CAN WIN Check out BBOD on tps and see what runners loose
And what type of runners win if the BBOD is any of above leave alone..
Last but not least its all about risk management.
Good luck Newbie

[tim winnett]

REF: ENOUGH ABOUT COMPLAINING LETS GET ON WITH MAKING MONEY (the final rant)

Reply to Denis April 21st 10.21am
Sorry your right you stated 4 months, peter replied at 10.23am and stated that would be a big ask.
In my opinion 4.5 points or nearer 6 points having 12-20 bets per month. with the amount of racing day +eve
On offer; remembering these are cherry picked ??
CHERRY PICKED. To me that means time, effort, knowledge, all details double checked.
TAKE SAT selection 4/9 won a maiden against very little alotted a rating of 125
Up in trip now priced because of harry skelton on board not performance.
Friday clasic 3 card trick bells ringing why? vip bet included BBOD a 2yr old
With 8 runners never raced I do not back races with no for? The 2nd selection
Very fair just had to repeat, the figs stacked up 3rd race ultra competitive 4/11 priced
Fav what chance and contribution will that give if the other 2 win.
Look at the form of the winner 20th feb Matterthorn chelms 1mile
Track speed 2.008
Average speed fig of race card 70.31
Matterthorn Race run above average 1.83
Winners speed rating fig 81.06 matterthorn

Next race matterthorn kempton 1m2f
Race card Track speed 2.12
Aver speed fig 70.82
Matthetorn race run 2.2 above average
Winners speed rating 83.8

Unless the 2nd at4/11 on sats race is reported missing a shoe or virus
It may be 16lb higher rated but it cant improve its pace.

This is why i think the selections are out of kelter on VIP bets
Picking competive races + i leave the 2yrolds 3 YROLD UNTIL AFTER THE DERBY

I use the vip as part of my portfolio of investnents and with all
The previous results the last 2 months or since a more selective approach was anounced
It gone backwards. I UNDERSTAND about tryingg to offer the best service.
TRADING IS ABOUT GETTING MORE RIGHT THAN WRONG and risk management.

I JUST HOPE MATT can turn it around quick before that portflio becomes redundant.
THIS IS NOTHING PERSONAL TO TPS
Ihave just put the above in to show i certainly put effort in and i
Am sure other members do as well.

THIS will be my last post for a while as i need to concetrate on my other trades,
If richard or matt read this rating service fine no problems eearlier evening ratings would help.
Its can only improve lets hope matt can pull it out the bag good luck to all.

[tim winnett]

REPLY TO DENIS 21ST APRIL
understand your position, The point that i find frustrating Is looking back at some of the selections,
are they realy cherry picking the best bets or just the best ratings.?
To exploit surley is to have a class runner in a donkey race, sat races look how many
Highlighted top rated runners won and the vip selection is picked by in my opinion, by number only without regard for
Other vairibles, the only reason i am still in the vip is ive managed to mitigate some of the losses
HAD MY RANT. But yes lets see what the updated advertisement is.
And if theres 20 points profit next month i would be Suprised with the currenrt amount of selections per month.
If your getting 3 or 4 selections per week And they are so called the best selected (cherry picked)
Rating, class , ground, all variables you would expect to be checked. So why so many consistant losses
Why so few bets.? When on some no bet V.I.p days certain runners are standing out head and shoulders to the average form guru.
Things certainly need to change in my opinion TPS have done some good changes and the vip service needs to do the same
Or is it TPS is second in upgrades to betinfo24???

[tim winnett]

ANY ONE LEFT IN THE V.I.P Bets ????
Its now gone beyond a bad run?..

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