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  • #33758
    Richard Levett
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    The back-to-lay strategy is a popular approach in sports trading, particularly on betting exchanges like Betfair. It involves placing a back bet (betting on an outcome to happen) at higher odds and then placing a lay bet (betting on the same outcome not to happen) at lower odds, with the goal of locking in a profit regardless of the final result.

    Here’s a breakdown of how it works:

    How Back-to-Lay Works

    Back Bet:
    You identify a selection (e.g., a horse or team) where you expect the odds to drop.
    Place a back bet at the current odds.

    Odds Drop:
    If the selection performs well or market sentiment changes, the odds on that selection will decrease.

    Lay Bet:
    Once the odds drop, place a lay bet at the lower odds.

    Profit Calculation

    By laying at lower odds than your original back bet, you can secure a profit.
    Example:

    You back a horse at 10.0 odds with £10:
    Potential profit (if the horse wins): £90 (£100 return – £10 stake).

    Odds drop to 6.0 after strong market support or pre-race buzz.

    You lay the same horse at 6.0 for £16.67:
    Liability: £83.33 (6.0 odds x £16.67 lay stake – £16.67 lay stake).
    If the horse wins:
    Back bet wins: £90 profit.
    Lay bet loses: £83.33 liability.
    Net profit: £6.67.
    If the horse loses:
    Back bet loses: £10 stake.
    Lay bet wins: £16.67 lay stake.
    Net profit: £6.67.

    This ensures a guaranteed profit of £6.67 no matter the outcome.
    Key Factors for Success

    Market Knowledge: Identify selections whose odds are likely to drop (e.g., horses with strong form, a team expected to start strongly, or pre-match rumours).
    Timing: The earlier you spot an opportunity, the more room for odds to decrease.
    Liquidity: Ensure the market has sufficient liquidity for both back and lay bets.
    Patience and Discipline: Wait for favourable odds and avoid chasing losses.

    Advantages

    Low-risk: You can lock in profit before the event finishes.
    Versatility: Can be applied to various sports and markets, including football, horse racing, and cricket.

    Risks to Consider

    Odds Might Not Drop: If odds drift higher instead of falling, you may face a loss or require a larger lay stake to break even.
    Market Volatility: Fast-moving markets can make it harder to secure your desired odds.
    Mistakes in Calculations: Ensure accurate calculations to avoid losses due to mismatched stakes.

    This strategy is particularly appealing for those seeking steady, low-risk profits rather than relying purely on outcomes.

    #4733
    jacqueline mclean
    Participant

    mondays potential plays

    430 bri…2*+4
    445 kemp…2+1
    450 wor…12*+2*
    515 kemp…4*+1
    755 wol…4+1

    #4720
    jacqueline mclean
    Participant

    stats to date

    mar 22 – apr 2…+32.83
    apr 4 – apr 30…-44.77
    may 2 – may 28…+41.16
    may 30 -july 2…+13.92
    july 4 -july 30…+47.90
    aug 1- today…+70.76

    FROM SEPT 2ND

    2nd… +11.08
    3rd… +14
    4th… no betting
    5th… -2.40
    6th… +7.73
    7th… 4.61
    8th… +4.29
    9th… – .15
    10th… +7.80
    11th… -1.29

    p/l 2nd to 11th PLUS 36.45PT

    #4719
    jacqueline mclean
    Participant

    SUNDAYS RESULTS…updated stats to follow

    11 240 bat…MINUS 1
    9+3 315 bat…MINUS 2
    7+5 325 che…MINUS 1
    1+2 335 ff…PLUS 5.71
    7+4 400 ch…MINUS 2
    4+3 410 ff…MINUS 1

    P/L…-1.29PT

    #4709
    jacqueline mclean
    Participant

    sundays potential plays

    11 240 bat
    9+3 315 bat
    7+5 325 che
    1+2 335 ff
    7+4 400 ch
    4+3 410 ff

    #4705
    jacqueline mclean
    Participant

    thats super roger…i must look into that as life would be much easier…i have friends who use bots and other software on the exchange…one day i hope to rise to this level of technology

    #4703
    Roger
    Member

    Thanks Jacqueline. I use excel to monitor and fire my bets into Betfair via gruss betting assistant, the betting criteria being set in excel and I have an upper limit of 51 set. For the few we get at these prices I will probably leave it at that for now. Understand now why we had the discrepancy.

    #4701
    jacqueline mclean
    Participant

    hi dave

    glad you made a profit but these are not my tips…they are richards and matts ratings in selected races…with a lot of help from roger it has been ticking over nicely

    fingers crossed for more of that

    #4700
    David Wasley
    Participant

    Hi Jacqueline

    Missed your first few tips but picked them up at 4.40pm onwards. You picked 6 winners in the 11 races left. I was betting very tiny amounts but still made £25 profit!

    Thank you!

    Dave

    #4697
    jacqueline mclean
    Participant

    hi roger

    i dont back anything over 25 bfsp as have not recorded any winner over that…no doubt it will happen as it nearly did today

    also i will avoid races with 25 or more runners

    don’t want to add to many filters though as you can miss some nie winners with too many filters

    #4692
    Roger
    Member

    Hi Jacqueline,

    You recorded 14:35 Doncaster – Humidor / Pipers Note…MINUS 1.

    Am I missing a filter somewhere as I placed bsp’s on both Humidor and Pipers Note and recorded a MINUS 2.

    #4684
    jacqueline mclean
    Participant

    SATURDAYS RESULTS

    14:15 Chester – Sir Billy Wright / Alejandro…MINUS 1
    14:35 Doncaster – Humidor / Pipers Note…MINUS 1
    15:25 Chester – Tahoo / Harome…MINUS 2
    15:55 Chester – Rainbow Rebel / De Veer Cliffs…MINUS 1
    16:20 Doncaster – Harbour Master / Khalida…PLUS 3.20
    16:25 Bath – Rosie Royale / Ballyfarsoon…PLUS 9.6…STOP BETTING PLUS 7.80 PT ON THE DAY THANX RICHARD AND ROGER
    16:30 Chester – Masamah / Come on Dave
    16:40 Lingfield – He’s No Saint / King of Spin
    16:45 Musselburgh – Soundstrings / Lincoln Rocks
    16:50 Doncaster – Banksea / Up in Lights
    16:55 Bath – Miss Minuty / British Embassy
    17:00 Chester – Hereawl / Blakeney Point
    17:15 Lingfield – Inclination / Pretty Bubbles
    17:25 Doncaster – Renfrew Street / Moorside
    17:55 Musselburgh – Mujaamil / Planetaria
    18:00 Doncaster – Gold Trail / Stars over the Sea
    18:05 Bath – Cersei / Pine Ridge
    18:30 Musselburgh – Introductory / Novalina

    #4666
    jacqueline mclean
    Participant

    THANX ROGER

    14:15 Chester – Sir Billy Wright / Alejandro
    14:35 Doncaster – Humidor / Pipers Note
    15:25 Chester – Tahoo / Harome
    15:55 Chester – Rainbow Rebel / De Veer Cliffs
    16:20 Doncaster – Harbour Master / Khalida
    16:25 Bath – Rosie Royale / Ballyfarsoon
    16:30 Chester – Masamah / Come on Dave
    16:40 Lingfield – He’s No Saint / King of Spin
    16:45 Musselburgh – Soundstrings / Lincoln Rocks
    16:50 Doncaster – Banksea / Up in Lights
    16:55 Bath – Miss Minuty / British Embassy
    17:00 Chester – Hereawl / Blakeney Point
    17:15 Lingfield – Inclination / Pretty Bubbles
    17:25 Doncaster – Renfrew Street / Moorside
    17:55 Musselburgh – Mujaamil / Planetaria
    18:00 Doncaster – Gold Trail / Stars over the Sea
    18:05 Bath – Cersei / Pine Ridge
    18:30 Musselburgh – Introductory / Novalina

    #4647
    jacqueline mclean
    Participant

    FRIDAYS RESULTS

    14:40 Chester – Tawny Port / Cullingworth…minus 2
    15:05 Doncaster – Wall of Fire / Fabricate…minus 1
    15:15 Chester – Viscount Barfield / Gabriel the Tiger…minus 1
    15:30 Sandown – Haggie / Shawaahid…minus 1
    15:50 Chester – Playful sound / Cote d’Azur…minus 1
    16:05 Sandown – Aristocratic / Little Miss Kodi…minus 1
    16:40 Sandown – Cloudberry / Postbag…minus 1
    17:00 Chester – Chocala / Gabriel King…minus 1
    17:15 Sandown – Sennockian / Pure Fantasy…plus 10.9…THIS ONE HIT 200 IN RUNNING…yes i was matched…get in there!!!
    17:25 Doncaster – Nuno Tristan / Normandy Barriere…plus 1.95…got caught out here with a late change in price but i take it
    17:30 Chester – Ellaal / Character Onesie…minus 2
    18:20 Salisbury – Jumping Around / Prufrock…minus 2

    p/l= minus .15 pt

    #4639
    jacqueline mclean
    Participant

    14:40 Chester – Tawny Port / Cullingworth
    15:05 Doncaster – Wall of Fire / Fabricate
    15:15 Chester – Viscount Barfield / Gabriel the Tiger
    15:30 Sandown – Haggie / Shawaahid
    15:50 Chester – Playful sound / Cote d’Azur
    16:05 Sandown – Aristocratic / Little Miss Kodi
    16:40 Sandown – Cloudberry / Postbag
    17:00 Chester – Chocala / Gabriel King
    17:15 Sandown – Sennockian / Pure Fantasy
    17:25 Doncaster – Nuno Tristan / Normandy Barriere
    17:30 Chester – Ellaal / Character Onesie
    18:20 Salisbury – Jumping Around / Prufrock

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