Members shared tips

[LARRY DITCHBURN]

Not a winning day for the method today,very close with the 2nd bet but it’s being the winner that counts,so back in battle tomorrow,Good afternoon from me.

[stan jones]

no problems Graham, i do my own any way lol so no worries there

[Graham Wilson]

Stan, I am a punter too and as I said at the first post on this topic, I appreciate the sharing of tips and I am grateful for the info. I’m not suggesting stopping sharing tips.

I am no lawyer so don’t have a definitive legal view to give but to me if you cut and paste word for word someone else’s work then it remains their work and their intellectual property and legally they can prove that. I guess if you take that information and pass it on as your own without disclosing the source you could argue it is coincidental to info found elsewhere. It would be up to the tipster to decide if they want you on their book if they believe you are passing on their information and preventing them earning a fee.

I see one of THIS sites rules is you do not promote other sites so unless it is YOUR info to give isn;t that what is being done?

I have nothing to gain raising this issue apart from making sure a great site I subscribe to isn’t compromised by sharing info that clearly comes from unrelated third party sites WITHOUT that sites permission. It’s not as simple as saying ignore it is you don’t want to use it. If it is on the TPS site from a 3rd party site without that sites permission I think we have a problem but I am no legal expert. Jut a concern for the well being of TPS

[stan jones]

there is no legal way of stopping you posting tips like carl said he paid for them down to him if he wants to share it,if it offends any one then simlpy choose to ignore them ,we are just jo punter trying to help other punters save money and make money hopefully along the way,when it comes down to tips or digital data like systems you cant put copy right on it ,i read some where why it cant be done about three year;s ago ,but like i said this is a community forum trying to help out member s

[Carl]

Graham I will also say this ,if I buy a pizza from asda does that pizza remain asdas property after I pay for it ? If asda had a clause saying it did that wouldn’t make it legal or enforceable would it ?
I could give slice to anyone I choose too couldn’t I ?
So I buy a tip and choose to share it ,you as the tipster may choose to stop supplying me ,but as for stopping me sharing it ,I very very much doubt that can be done in any legal or meaningful way . maybe if I’d signed a good non discloser contract they would have some sort of civil case !

To put it bluntly ,if I pay for something its mine,who I share it with is my choice and I’d like to see someone try and stop me.
But its Matts site and if he asks me to refrain from doing so I’d respect that too

[LARRY DITCHBURN]

Glad we did’nt back MR UNIVERSUM now!

[Graham Wilson]

Like most members I just pay a monthly sub so have no idea if this is going to be policed by anyone. I’m just going with the site wording of not to abuse the site, I guess it’s one for Matt to ponder and rule up on

[Carl]

Graham well worth a check, but this is an unmoderated forum his would you police this ?

[Graham Wilson]

Carl,

Most of the sites I have subscribed too before have clauses in their site wording to prevent duplication of their site info. I don’t know if this site does but I suspect it wiil, that is pretty standard in the industry. I am not so sure you can say you’ve paid for it so can do with it as you wish. You don’t create the info, it isn’t yours to gift is my opinion

I think it ought to be checked out so we are not doing anything that can damage TPS as it is a fantastic site

[Carl]

Graham I have in the past subscribed to other services and posted there info here,I paid for that info and therefore that becomes mine to do with as I like,I can see no law or reason why I should not do as i please.its not like the movie/music industry with there own special rules,if I buy a tip of someone and choose to share that tip that’s my choice and nothing to do with the tipster?

[Graham Wilson]

This is a good site. I think it is fantastic that members want to share their own tips which they have found through their own ingenuity, research etc. That’s very generous of them to share so thanks for that and the profit it brings.

I do have concerns that we are now including information from 3rd party sites, such as INNER CIRCLE, which I imagine is WITHOUT THAT SITE’S PERMISSION. I am guessing today’s post is just cutting and pasting that content word for word. To me that is dangerous as I imagine that is being done WITHOUT permission so in effect stealing their intellectual property. Does that open up the TPS site to issues if the other site find out? I think it could. What do others think?

[Carl]

Stan looks good stuff

[stan jones]

s.a.w 1.2.3.4 todays list few more today 16 in all
1.40 fort gabriel
1.55 great prospect
2.15 mister universum
2.25 hppy like a fool
2.45 midnight cwoboy
3.35 enabled
3.00 ronald r
3.55 slim pickings
4,15 mori
5.20 ivory queen
5.50 knight comander
6.20 novis adventure
7.20 royal battlion
7.50 king vince
6.40 to dibba
7.10 white rosa

[Peter Richardson]

Hi Stan,
I will follow the results closely in the next week or so and look at the different methods. Thanks for the extra information its appreciated.
Thanks Peter

[Neil Munro]

Michael Wilkinson
Participant
I have just tried a dozen times to get into Members Shared Tips but keep getting thrown back to the home page. so here are some freebe tips I have from “Inner Circle”.
YORK 1.55 PREMIERE YEARLING STAKES
Tricky start to proceedings in this race De Bruyne Horse heads my ratings and speed figures currently 11/2 one of 2 entries for the hannons . R fahey has 5 entries the most popular being current joint fav Great Prospector 7/2 ridden by hannagan the other joint fav is Hey Jonesy 7/2 from the kevin ryan yard who has won this race twice since 2011.. Hey Jonesy has the benefit of a course win at york in a very good class 3 and takes step up in class today . Great Prospector doesnt fair so well on speed figures but only 2yr old and totally unexposed . That brings me to De Bruyne Horse who is top on all stats and the choice ride of golden bollox . Highly tried in 2 class 1 runs 8th and 4th but does have a class 2 win over todays trip .. Very tricky for betting purposes these 3 all look to have a chance in a field of improving 2 yr olds . Hey Jonsey is the pick on all the big sites but the value is with the hannon horse SO ILL ADVISE AN EW PUNT WITH 4 PLACES UP FOR GRABS ON DE BRUYNE HORSE 11/2

YORK 2.25 LOWTHER STAKES ( GROUP 2 )
Excellent race this a field full of 2 yr old im sure we will be backing a few of these in the future . Clear on irv ratings is the obrien horse Actress 2126213 it has top speed rating . Close to it is Neolla and Threading . That cheesy american fella wesley ward runs Happy Like A Fool and frankie takes the ride .Its only had the one run coming 2nd at ascot in june ridden by ryan moore on that occasion , be nice to hear what he thinks of the horse but without that info we stuck with the form stats im gonna stick with ryan moores mount on Actress as its the most experienced of these 2 yr olds on 7 runs and like i said has the top speed figure . Again very competitive but at 4/1 i think we can just get away with an ew punt
BACK ACTRESS EW AT 4/1

YORK 3.00 CLIPPER LOGISTICS HANDICAP
This is a bit more simple to break down on form a mixture of 3-7 yr olds . War Department a non runner makes it a bit easier so the only 3yr old and top official rated is Ronald R at 8/1 from the michael bell yard this horse is top on the clock has won over further the drop back to 8f today should be fine. At 8/1 this looks another good opportunity for golden bollox to show his class . Al Hayem and Chelsea Lad look the main dangers and have been supported YOU COULD DUTCH ALL 3 AT THE PRICES OR HAVE A WIN BET ON RONALD R AND SAVERS ON THE OTHER TWO .. ILL BE DOING WIN AND SAVE

YORK 3.35 DARLEY YORKSHIRE OAKS
A fillies group 1 race and the fav needs no introduction Enable currently 2/7 should be winning this for frankie and john gosden . Only 7 runners not a betting opportunity maybe a forecast Enable to win followed home by Nezwaah 9/1 who is actually top speed . NO BET FOR ME IN THIS

YORK 4.15 BRITISH EBF HENRY CECIL GALTRES STAKES
Another listed event for fillies top rated by far is Mori . A sir michael stout ryan moore combination .. Odds on at 4/5 should be taking this by all account main dangers look to be More Mischief who is more exposed and holds top speed figure and Curlew River from mark johnston yard 1711 form figures but takes a big step up in class today ,, NO BET FOR ME MAYBE A TRICAST . MORI FIRST MORE MISCHIEF 2ND AND CURLEW RIVER 3RD .

YORK 4.50
Cristal Fizz is least exposed and top rated from the william haggas yard under guess who ? Yes golden bollox . So favourite backers will be hoping he sends them home with a win and seems the pick
WIN BET CRISTAL FIZZ 2/1

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